OBCA forms in as national org, convention date slated

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New York City/May 07: The first national convention of the newly-announced Organization of Bhutanese Communities in America (OBCA) is scheduled to be held on June 18-19 in Georgia.

In a press statement sent to Bhutan News Service today, the OBCA said the existence of the organization was largely felt to assist resettled folks who have been facing various hardships and trauma in their initial struggle.

“The efforts of resettlement agencies in many states have not been adequate in helping our people as much as they should and as effectively while we are in a completely strange environment in terms of culture, language, food habits, education, skill development and employment opportunities. Our people are going through some sort of crisis (identity, spiritual, cultural shock) either consciously or unconsciously,” reads the statement.

It read that the exiled Bhutanese need to be united and organized into a social forum that would address the needs of our people and take up such issues with local, state and national social organizations including the resettlement agencies.

The statement issued by Bhakti Sharma, the Chief Coordinator of the First National Convention Organizing Committee has urged all resettled Bhutanese for their active participation.

Download Press Statement – OBCA

86 COMMENTS

  1. I am responding to this news on behalf of the Association of Bhutanese in America (ABA).

    It is heartening to see that Bhutanese people are feeling the need to organize themselves into service organizations to assist their community. The goals set forth by this new organization are important ones.

    I will err on the side of assuming that most of the well-intentioned people involved in the establishment of this new organization are aware of the existence of other Bhutanese organizations through out the United States, from California, Atlanta, to Utah to New Hampshire, each one assisting their fellow community members. ABA hopes that consultations were held with these local organizations about the need and goals of a new organization at the national level. I also believe that the people involved in the establishment of this new organization knew at least of the existence of ABA as a national organization, if not its projects, services and its limitations and constraints.

    ABA wants to inform all the members of the Bhutanese community that this announcement of the existence of another national organization comes as a surprise to the Association. ABA was not informed, consulted or even teased about the intention to form a new organization. ABA understands that it has not been able to conduct outreach to the Bhutanese community in all states and cities, but what is outreach if there are no immediate services and benefits for the target population in the pipeline? With that logic, ABA has limited its outreach to concrete services where possible. We have not handed out promises to people. So, a fair number of Bhutanese do not know about ABA.

    Since before its formal announcement, ABA began consultation with the State Department in relation to the resettlement program. After its formal establishment as a registered charity in Washington DC in July 2007, ABA continued the relationship with the State Department. It established and strengthened its ties with resettlement agencies, ultimately being awarded an Ethnic Community Self-help Grant from the Office of Refugee Resettlement in collaboration with the International Rescue Committee in the Washington DC suburbs. This program, Bhutanese Community Program, of ABA has just about completed setting up mechanisms to provide services to the newly resettled Bhutanese refugees in Baltimore and DC suburb areas of Maryland, especially women.

    ABA has also conducted two conventions so far. Its third convention is slated for July 2-4 in Atlanta, GA. Plans are underway and outreach to community members is beginning.

    ABA believes in a gradual strengthening of its capacity to provide services instead of publicity and promises. It intends to expand in gradual steps to other states, without overwhelming itself. It believes in the long term unity and prosperity of the Bhutanese community in the United States.

    This unity that we have been talking about for decades now, frankly, is threatened by this division of manpower and resources through the creation of multiple organizations with the same goals. ABA does not insist that ABA is THE organization that should be promoted and nurtured; however, ABA does insist that one, and ONLY one, national organization of Bhutanese should be established and nurtured. Such an organization should provide opportunities for everyone to actively participate in its activities and in its decisions through a refined process put in place. ABA does have such a mechanism for participation in its activities and decisions for every interested Bhutanese in the United States. ABA has room for interested Bhutanese to join it – as members, as directors of the board, as supporters, as advisors and as well-wishers. It has mechanism that allows every Bhutanese 18 years and older to be its members and eventually directors of the board; it has room for every member to have a say (through election) in the selection for the governing board and in setting policies and programs for the Association. It has room, through a process already in place, to amend its by-laws, expand or shrink its mission, and change its goals, aims and objectives depending on the need of the Bhutanese community in the United States. In short, ABA can be what the Bhutanese community in the United States wants it to be. The only catch is that one has to be part of it to change, mould and nurture it.

    ABA’s current leadership (which can change every two years, depending on the choice of its members) is willing to discuss how we, as a community, should move forward.

    ABA does not intend to die off once resettled Bhutanese become self-reliant. It foresees the need for a vibrant organization of the Bhutanese diaspora. It recognizes the need for well-being in our new home as well as a tangible connection to our homeland. While dedicating whatever resources it gets to assist the new arrivals, it also has a vision for our children decades down the line. This is an organization begun with a dream that was discussed for more than six months by the Bhutanese community in the United States and agreed to by an overwhelming majority. ABA has created a platform for us, and it has been alive for four years. Though nowhere near enough, its workers have made significant contributions in select areas. We invite you all, who feel the need, to come take leadership of this platform and use it for the benefit of our people, rather than spending your time and energy creating new organizations.

    It is not too late for us to avoid this scattering of passionate service providers and of scarce resources. It is not too late for us to avoid appearing as a divided community in front of our supporters and partner organizations. It is NEVER too late for anyone to be involved in a single organization of the Bhutanese nationally. It is not too late to avoid repeating the history we lived in Nepal.

    As the ED of ABA, I would love to speak to those of you who are working to set up this new organization. So will the board members of ABA. I am also willing to speak to any Bhutanese who wants to know more about ABA and its mission and vision. Please feel free to call me at 646-469-3618 or email me at [email protected]. You can also learn more about us at http://www.aba-usa.org. Our by-laws are online and they define ABA in pretty good detail.

    I apologize if this offends anyone. The intent is, frankly, not to promote ABA but to see if we could avoid duplication of effort and division of resources. I regret that ABA was not aware of the work being done on the formation of this new organization. If we were, we would have had a conversation before this became public. Still, it is not too late. I hope we can talk directly, or discuss here as well, in a civil way, keeping in mind that all of us no matter where we are involved, have nothing more than the desire to assist our communities in their need.

  2. wonderful job..another sign of craze in starting new organizations. Bhakti Bhandari will work for sometime and disappear like he did in BNDP & DYB. ????????????????????? this is America and we don’t need any organization..

  3. Resettlement is not our choice it’s a solution. There are lots of hardships and people are facing adversity and benefits provided at the beginning varies depending on the families. With little help educated and healthy families have done lots and felt the wholeness and self-sufficiency. But at the sometime families with kids,uneducated,unskilled have not seen the rays of hope in America. The questions at this cross road is not what organizations are planing to do. NOt their annual conventions and election of directors. Have you ever seen this category of population and little smiles in their faces? How our fellow country people have to struggle in a unknown land and for how long?

    I like to question the newly formed organization about their commitments and confidence dealing with community issues.

    I never heard from ABA ever since i arrived in the US and about a project plan in Baltimore area. Why ABA can not bring such projects in other states? Is there restriction to run business in other states because ABA is registered as a domestics non profit in the state of Maryland? or is that because of all board members are around DC location? I am talking about equality of services if this organization wants to serves for the whole Bhutanese people in the USA.

    When concerns are raised each time there are reasons behind. ABA is expressing it’s inability to unite all the Bhutanese in the US. If that is not true, what ABA was looking at for all these many years and do not want people living in the other states to move on with separate strategies? Why all the Bhutanese asylee are not in ABA and some of them are involved in newly formed organization.?
    Here is what i want to share. It’s not possible for ABA to go with national unification policy because all the directors of ABA have never seen refugee camps back in Nepal. ONe in the leadership need to speak the language of refugee camps,lived in the tiny bamboo hut,run in the bicycle up and down,inhaled dusty wind and so on.
    As far as i know ABA is a member base organization and did not care to unify all the Bhutanese asylee in the US. so it not divided now,it has been for long time and impossible to glue together at this junction. A member base organization only promote and protect the interest of members not the whole community. There for, i encourage every one to be united in the newly formed organization.
    Thank you for reading
    Bhim

  4. Woooo…………..
    I don’t know much about ABA or the new organisation in the pipeline.Whatever it may be HATTI or HATTI CHHAP seems to be same.I just wounder whether such organisations already in force or some in the pipeline really serve the purpose of empowering the poor refugees under resettlement or simply empower their starved pockets in the name of refugees./I am scared……………
    I doubt whether the members of such organisations (Non Profit )I guess,are truely a non profit and social in functional background.I have so many offers from some affluent members to be a part of their business.
    BuSINESS!!!!!!AMERIKAN BUSINESS.
    Is it what we poor refugees meant for some BHOGODAS????

    I am sure more of such organisations are in the pipeline so what bothers others?After all we need more of organisations in a situations like this.I am of the view that resettled Bhutanese must get organised in one way or the other keeping the sprits of well being among the fellow bhutanese.I support the idea of forming the BHUTANESE COMMUNITY in every cities they are placed in which will help in the following…….
    1. Updating the data base of resettlement city wise.
    2. Helping the illliterate lots in some translation work in the DSS,Hospital or for getting with the job.
    3. Keeping the cultural identity alive.
    4. Develop strategy for providing Nepali classes for the younger lot and simple English for the Older lot in cities on voluntarily basis.
    5. Help our folks get their learner’s permit so that they can get their driver,s liscence.
    6. Finally organise cultural shows in city centres to raise funds for some useful community like paying for the funeral homes help people in times of unforeseen disasters like fire …..

    I ubnderstand there are many bhutanese community groups already in operations and would be better if more comes covering all individual families from every cities.

    I am sorry I have to oppose these existing groups for they are more for business than service.

  5. Mr. Sharma and Acharya,
    Honestly, both of your capability is well-judged by resettled folks, already! Both of you are not likely to lead such organisations. Don’t play on the life of newly resettled Bhutanese. At for sometimes they should be led free from “petty” politics that you guys have been doing.

    I personally know both of you and I deserve this right to tell to the readers of this website. It will be great injustice if our media guys don’t approve this comment. Hey resettled folks, be aware of PETTY POLITICS going on around. It is time to decide who really serve the community. U might have acquired several degrees upon your arrival in the USA but I bid both of your contribution to the society is not much.

    Dear Acharya and Sharma, if you are that much capable to lead the resettled folks, turn your ears to voices of fire victims in Beldangi camp. Start collecting some funds and send them. We commoners challenge this to both of you. eProve to the community that u do what you speak. Good luck for your initiative to collect funds for fire victims.

  6. Baadai chaa BM Rai N SARMAN SAMAL. Behind the curtain temee haruu hoo Naayaa Organization Ko Netaa. Abba chaii donors batta funding chaiii “Jyaappaa” hoina ta?. Bhakti Bhandari taa Deekauu nay Daath matrai hooo. Ketaa haruuu Bhathoo chaaa

  7. OBCA,
    Please beware of the corrupt nature of few names that figure in the list of mobilising committees.These guys will sell everything for money ,we do have some living examples in the camp still crying for help from RCU ,they have extorted a huge amount of money from those who are still to be registered in the camps as refugees.
    If this group in the pipeline is to achive some thing magical then there has to be a thorough background check for some .Else the trust on such groups by resettled refugees will be ZERO.Many of us know WHO is WHO in corruptions and exortions.So I am extremely sorry for those guys.

    I see the truth in mr.Druk’s oponion.They are acting behind the curtains.
    hahahahhah
    … don’t think so easy now we are aware more than what we used to be earlier.Now you guys have to think twice before you try to sell us as potatoes in the market.
    Any way GOOD LUCK>

  8. I think there are some important and sincere questions from ‘Bhim’ up there and with a request for permission to the editor, I, on behalf of ABA, would like to answer them.
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    I never heard from ABA ever since i arrived in the US and about a project plan in Baltimore area. Why ABA can not bring such projects in other states? Is there restriction to run business in other states because ABA is registered as a domestics non profit in the state of Maryland? or is that because of all board members are around DC location?

    ABA does have the intention and plans to try and begin projects in other states and cities as well. As an organization being managed by volunteers (who work full time in other jobs for sustenance), ABA does have limitations. It will take time for ABA or any other organization of its nature to be able to start sustainable projects with full time paid staff. As of now, there are no restrictions to work in other states, even though ABA is registered in DC (not in Maryland). However, there are requirements – registration in that state as a ‘foreign’ charity organization, getting permission from the Office of the Attorney General and Secretary of State of that state and fulfilling all the required processes which are different in each state. Not all board members of ABA are located near DC. There are three of them near DC, including the Chair. One is in San Francisco Bay Area, one is in Phoenix, AZ, two in Atlanta (GA), one in Pittsburgh, PA, and one in Syracuse, NY.
    The project in Maryland is a result of willing partner in IRC who was willing to take risk on an organization that had no track record of having tun a project before, possibilities of funding, willingness and diligence of ABA board members in the area and willingness of some active members of the local Bhutanese community to partner with ABA. A lot of chips have to fall in place before a project can be launched. This project might make ABA wiser and better at pursuing project ideas. The primary key was willingness of the local Bhutanese community to explore possibilities with ABA, to sit down and discuss issues and disagreements with an intention to reach agreement, so that services would reach the people who needed them.
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    When concerns are raised each time there are reasons behind. ABA is expressing it’s inability to unite all the Bhutanese in the US. If that is not true, what ABA was looking at for all these many years and do not want people living in the other states to move on with separate strategies?

    ABA recognizes its limitations, as every organization should. When ABA is not able to get everyone into a single fold, we say it is because we have not been able to convince them, or reach out to them properly. ABA is run by people who scrape out a few hours each week from their regular jobs, and so it has been difficult. The new organization will very soon realize how difficult it is!
    ABA does not discourage people in other states to move on with separate strategies. In fact, ABA wants to collaborate with local Bhutanese community organizations if and when new projects materialize or if and when ABA wants to have events. ABA believes that there are a lot of local needs that a national-level organization can not fulfill. What ABA discourages is more than one local organization in a single city or more than one national organization at the national level. This would lead to competition, mud slinging and will diminish our prospect for possible support from potential partners. Local community organization in resettlement hubs, complemented by a national organization which is willing to partner, is something ABA thinks will foster collaboration.
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    Why all the Bhutanese asylee are not in ABA and some of them are involved in newly formed organization.

    This is perhaps a question to be asked of those who are not involved and not of ABA. ABA has tried and has kept trying. ABA’s doors are still open and the mechanism for people to be involved is still in place.
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    Here is what i want to share. It’s not possible for ABA to go with national unification policy because all the directors of ABA have never seen refugee camps back in Nepal.

    This may not be entirely true. There are people in ABA’s board who were living with and taking care of other Bhutanese refugees right since when the refugees were living in the Mai camp with no assistance. There are members in ABA board who have worked as teachers in the refugee camps. There are some whose family members, including parents, still live in the refugee camps in Nepal. There are general members in ABA who came directly from the camps on resettlement. And this composition of the Board will change every two years, and we will see some new faces with perhaps different background and experiences on the Board this year.
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    One in the leadership need to speak the language of refugee camps, lived in the tiny bamboo hut, run in the bicycle up and down, inhaled dusty wind and so on.

    Folks in ABA have done some of all the things you mention. Not that it makes us better able to provide services, but we have people in ABAwho have lived in the tiny bamboo huts with rain seeping on to our beds, who have taught in the open space in the refugee camps, under the trees, when there was no ‘school’, with snakes slithering down the trees in the heat of the summer; they have inhaled the incessant dust of the plains from 6 in the morning until 5 in the evenings, working two to three shifts to make up for lack of space, even out in the open. Some of us didn’t even have a bicycle when we went to get ‘rasin’ at the distribution center every fifteen days. We have sat around on ‘mudaas’ with elderly people outside our huts in the camps until the wee hours of the morning because it was too hot to sleep. We did not do all these for eighteen long years like most of our fellow Bhutanese had to do. We did these perhaps for a year or two. But even when living away from camps in colleges or teaching jobs, most of us were back in the camps every month or every fifteen days primarily because we belonged there. So, yes, we know what it felt like to be continuously living there for a year. We can only imagine what it would be like to do that for eighteen long years. But, of the sixty or so members in ABA, many of them have seen it all and been through it all in the refugee camps, the dirt and grit and the smiles and tears; perhaps more than those who choose to question their ‘refugeeness.’
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    As far as i know ABA is a member base organization and did not care to unify all the Bhutanese asylee in the US. so it not divided now,it has been for long time and impossible to glue together at this junction. A member base organization only promote and protect the interest of members not the whole community.

    ABA is a membership-based community organization. A membership based organization takes into account the inputs and suggestion of its members (which ABA has currently about 60 only) when making decisions. An organization without membership takes into account the inputs and suggestion of a few people in its leadership when making decisions. A membership based organization, by its very definition, has passed on some rights to its members, so it is more representative when members take active role.
    It is not accurate to say that ABA looks out only for its members. A person does not have to be a member of ABA to receive services. For instance, ABA does not have a SINGLE member so far in Maryland, where it has launched its first project.
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    Comment: I hope I have answered at least some of your questions, and if any of it came across as impolite, please know that was not the intention. I will try to parse through posts and see if I can locate queries that ABA can answer and will get back to you all.

  9. Aho…seriously, this is taking needs of the resettled to a help table, and this is no formation of a party. The responses from the people so far are good; may be because the purpose is good, and the efforts are educated. The concerend shall not practice dirty games invoving the peoples’ fate.
    The convention is aimed at understanding the community’s needs en groupe, exploring possibilties for addressing them, and planning the groupwork ahead although many more are yet to arrive onto the land, and enjoy their right to choose between possible array of options for sharing responsibilites and living harmoniuosly as a community, in their new homes. In this scenario ABA is invisible to the eyes of the resettled. Let’s see how our peoples’ aspirations work, and their judgements make decisions for their future.
    They would be happy to hear more explanations, and accept the ones they like. Let’s look out for the place where our views meet. Meaningfulness.

  10. Aae Sachii SEWAROOO DJ Khaling…. Vice-President Vayee raaai chaadeuuu hoinaa. Aabba 6 Months Matra no hoo…. tess pachaadee kooo president ta Pakka.Bro lai power ko taste chaii majja lay taha chaaa hhhahaahh

  11. The idea is good and common to all the organizations- be it local or national. We genuinely feel the need of only ONE national organization. can we merge OBCA and ABA? I think we will have stronger power if these 2 joined hands together. I request central leaders of both the organizations to sit down and discuss before the upcoming conferences in june and july.
    We look forward to hear the outcome of these leaders meeting. If you think, unity is stronger, meet and discuss. If you do not, we may not have hope…..

    Regards.

    Tika Acharya
    NH.

  12. Tika Acharya is exactly right. Both ABA and OBCA should come together to make a national organization if both the parties share the common goals for the welfare of Bhutanese in USA.

    @ Druk, you comments will not provoke me. I just feel sorry on your level of thinking. May be wrong chemicals are flowing in your brain.

    Parangkush
    Atlanta

  13. National groups are usually formed only when many smaller groups are formed then they are united….to form a national group without proven leadership is a disaster and will cause division….I know from experience
    Just my opinion but there seems to be alot of mistrust. this usually happens when there is a lack of communication and transparency, when mostly only English speaking and educated people are part of the process when the talk doesn’t line up with the walk and the needs of so many are not being met it appears that at least to me that there are some who are trying to cause division among the communities for their own gain I saw this when I was in Atlanta Georgia it seems to be split into 4 factions and will probably split even more causing a delusion of your culture.We started The Bhutanese Youth Club of Rochester http://www.BYCOR.org last year and it has opened alot of doors in the Rochester community not only for the youth but for the entire community they are a local group who has promoted throughout the world the formation of youth groups and soccer clubs to much success… you see there only agenda is to promote and preserve their culture and provide support services to other youth facing challenges NOBODY GETS PAID AND EVERYBODY IS INVOLVED IN OTHER ACTIVITIES (like School,sports and other clubs) can we do more? you bet we can and we are trying but it takes time and the process is one of learning and trust in our leadership, who the youths have elected. As an Adviser to the youth club I commend Badal,Hemanta, Gopal,Mohan,Ram,Kul,Damodhar,Kul,Susana Sapkota,Brim Magar,Nabin,Prabesh Pradhan,Lal Chuwan,and Mono Kafle,Prim,Kumar and many others who have made the group/club a success. I think people have to really check their agendas and their hearts as to why they want to form an organization, (the love of money is the Root to ALL evil) The youth leadership seeks out the advice from their elders when they do not know or understand something they are wise in their own ways. I believe one national organization is good… competition is better it keeps people honest and gives people choices. As an American who believes in you and your community I just want to let you know my feelings….. your community is doing very good…. you will be ok… Rome wasn’t built overnight change always takes time and we learn throughout our lives. Check your hearts and put your personal agendas aside stop thinking of self and think of others some of the less fortunate the elders and the seniors the new families etc. in your community.
    thank you

  14. Damai Sailo: 1) Out of fairness to those who made contributions and assisted all through, this needs to be said: ABA conducted donation drives to assist the fire victims in the camps on three different occassions. Details can be had from the camp secretary of Sanischarey camp and Father Varkey Perekkat of CARITAS. 2) This is less about a single person’s ability to lead or deliver what is needed for the community and more about how we can move forward together, united, cognisant of each other’s skills and limitations. Once we get out of that mind-set, there perhaps may be an opening for us to professionalize our organizations.

    Druk: Funds don’t come by so easily, and when they do, they can’t be spent wantonly. To accuse organizations/individuals of insidious intent even before they are set up is unwarranted.

    Deosire: There is not a single organization of Bhutanese in the United States that has been ‘visible’ to EVERY resettled Bhutanese, ABA included. At a given time, that may not be even possible for an organization. However, your assertion that ABA has been invisible to resettled Bhutanese is a little out of whack. ABA, when possible, reaches out in person to those who don’t surf the internet. But as of now, ABA does not advertise every itch that it scratches.

  15. Tikaji,
    I appreciate your idea and wish your suggestions come true sooner or later.
    But What I feel is ABA and OBCA are opposite banks of the same river.Here I put a line from a poem…………..
    “O ,east is east and west is west and never the twain shall meet”……….
    In my calculations I see some 998 such organisations are to come in future when the whole lot of 60,000 gets resettled in the states.This is from my personal analysis from the statement above provided by Hari Acharya sir…ABA was formed with just 60 members.
    I strongly feel the need for a organised group/ groups to cater the growing needs of Bhutanese resettled in USA.Unfortunately for some reasons organisations amongsts the Bhutanese are like tidal waves.It comes and disappears.I don,t oppose the concept of forming groups to help fellow citizens in times of need.But the end result…as usual all commitments and obligations are good in principle only.Should the commitments strictly enforced never ever will other groups get chance to come into existance.Theoritically everything and every aspects are met but in practice end result is virtually Zero except few gets the previlege.
    This is how the Bhutanese movement never made History.
    Well,getting organised is better and forming organisations is the right of the group/groups.Everyone has the right to do.This is I think graunteed by the Constitutions.
    My sincere request to all is to see that “YOUR FREEDOM ENDS WHERE MY NOSE BEGINS”.
    \Anyway this is just a begining and a good begining is half accomplishment of the task.

    Cheers!!!!

  16. Dear ABA & OBCA,
    When analysed at the various statements by different individuals above, it looks like every Bhutanese from across the country wishe to have a single umbrella where all can accomodate and share their feelings and experiences. There is no doubt that ABA is older than OBCA. It is also clear that members of OBCA have longer camp experience than ABA. Hence, both ABA and OBCA have their own strengths. When both claim the true representative of the people, what is the problem for you to be united? It is seen that both the organizations have already slated their convention dates. Is it possible for both the parties to come to a consensus and announce the new and fresh date of convention? Let the leaders of both organizations forget about the names of their respective organizations and come to the single platform and form the new one which would be proposed by the majority of the people. We request both the parties to be honest in the name of the people and have win-win situation for both. Still it is not late. Let us work on it.
    Thanks
    Bhagirath Khatiwada
    New Hampshire

  17. These bogus, overemphasized and aggregated writes of people really aggravate and it’s hared to come to a constructive solution.
    ABA or any other organization have no rights to limit or restraints the interest of common Bhutanese people.
    These is the age of by the interest of people and for the people than only for the members of any organization such as ABA.
    Please do not make mistake again. ABA don’t have more than 15 members if i am not mistaken. Some of them just resigned and don’t want to be a part issues. ABA has enough in the board and not even single member in most of the states. For instances State of Georgia has 3 members, NY 1,VA5,AZ1,CA2.
    What is your thought??????????????????

  18. It is very easy to form a so called national organization in USA. If you know 30 guys in different states in US, you can claim a national organization. Your guys need not have to be matured or qualitative. You can claim that these guys represent BHUTANESE IN USA, understand sufferings of newly settled and so on and so forth.
    So…for the GOD shake don’t claim that you represent me or my family members without prior consultation okey . Don’t black mail ordinary people like me that you are representing me. For this, you need to consult me before claiming me and my family. You need to get vote from me. Just go ahead and say, you represent a consortium of: Bhandari family, Khaling rai family, or Acharya family, Basnet family and so on.

  19. I,indeed, appreciate Mr. Bhagirath Khatiwada’S COMMENTS. HE SEEMS MATURED. WHOEVER OTHER GUYS ARE..PLZ TRY TO BE UNITED AND LET “all resettled and to be..” are represented in a SINGLE platform. AFTER ALL….WERE YOU ALL NOT ORIGINATED FROM SINGLE LAND OF BHUTAN…
    All of the wise guys who intend to form ORG or ASSOCIATION have set aside their personal differences and meet for grater cause of CARING our people..

  20. i read all the comments and for me every one is correct and every one is wrong. all the bhutanese refugees whereever they are have known the real and artificial language, life, respiration,food ,getup etc etc of all the self proclamed leaders of ” newly going to form organisation or the older ones”.it is vividly known how our leaders getaway from the track when they got opportunities to go abroad leaving behind the refugees in vile conditions. they never took the problems as authenticate.let us see in the days to come what they are going to do. may god bless every one.
    ganesh
    jacksonville, florida

  21. Hello OBCA,
    I don’t think you guys will be carried away by all these criticisms. You have a big job to accomplish!!!
    So Cheers,
    Hari Dhakal

    “Resolve to be the sun. This is the first thing you must do.
    As long as you are the sun, no matter what problems you may be facing now,
    the dawn will always break, fine weather will always return, and spring will never fail to arrive.” – Daisaku Ikeda

  22. Dear Friends,

    It seems that again politics of people like ????????????and his family has emerged. Be careful about this people. They are the opportunist, who grab everything in their life for their family and leave innocent people in shambles. ??????????????????????? Resettlement is only just a partial solution. Some leaders are still trying to divide people and the country.

    Beware!

  23. Dear friends,
    It is good to hear that You people also feel the need of Motherland. Beaware of the leaders who are leading such organization becoz they are the person who survived in donation till now.Still they are planing for the same.I personally give thanks to those who lately realise the need of soil.
    thanks

  24. People actively involved dividing the Bhutanese communities in USA are in Atlanta. They are encouraging other Bhutanese in other states to follow their path. We ordinary Bhutanese need to be cautious from these individuals
    1. Narayan Katel………….advocates for Bhutanese Association of Georgia . His back up Indian community-SEWA .
    2. Birendra Dhakal…….advocates for ABA. His back up: Bhutanese asyleee mainly Hari acharya and DP Basnet. ABA hardliner
    3. Sarman Samal……..advocates Magar Association of Georgia. His back up…Nepalese society in Atlanta.
    4. Deudatta Sharma… advocates for Bhutanese association merged into Nepalese association. His back up: Nepalese association in Atlanta
    5. Michael Thapa….Christian Association of Georgia.
    6. DJ Rai and BM Rai…….Running after non-profit. Divide and rule is their name of the game
    These individuals have at least 50 people( relatives and yesmen) in their influence in 50 states in USA. They are in a process to form so called national organization in USA. So 6 national organizations are in making!!!!
    Do we have guts to stop them??????

  25. Hari Acharya Sir
    After its formal establishment as a registered charity in Washington DC in July 2007, ABA continued the relationship with the State Department. It established and strengthened its ties with resettlement agencies, ultimately being awarded an Ethnic Community Self-help Grant from the Office of Refugee Resettlement in collaboration with the International Rescue Committee in the Washington DC suburbs. This program, Bhutanese Community Program, of ABA has just about completed setting up mechanisms to provide services to the newly resettled Bhutanese refugees in Baltimore and DC suburb areas of Maryland, especially women.
    Maybe your ABA can be alittle more transparent and share here the program being set up in Washington and Baltimore also how much was your grant for and what its intended purpose is for, a breakdown of the grant and where the funds are going, Maybe the Truth about how many people belong to ABA and your long term goals. This will help people understand what your agenda really is and gives them a choice to join or not. Small steps will get you to the same place as running. Maybe all of you “National Org” should step back and re-evaluate your agendas. By the way each “National Org” can only represent the members that belong to that group, of which there are presently at least 4 or 5 “claming to be National” and judging from what I see many more will develop. Oh the ways of democracy and free will.

  26. Hari Acharya Sir,
    Since before its formal announcement, ABA began consultation with the State Department in relation to the resettlement program. After its formal establishment as a registered charity in Washington DC in July 2007, ABA continued the relationship with the State Department. It established and strengthened its ties with resettlement agencies, ultimately being awarded an Ethnic Community Self-help Grant from the Office of Refugee Resettlement in collaboration with the International Rescue Committee in the Washington DC suburbs. This program, Bhutanese Community Program, of ABA has just about completed setting up mechanisms to provide services to the newly resettled Bhutanese refugees in Baltimore and DC suburb areas of Maryland, especially women.
    Maybe ABA can be alittle transparent and share with the readers the program in place that they started with the grant money for Washington and Baltimore. How much the Grant was for and a breakdown of the grant and its intended use. This could give the readers the choice to join or not at present there are some 4-5 “National” groups all claiming to represent the Bhutanese people when in reality they can only represent the folks who are members of their respective groups. ABA how many members do you have? I saw somewhere 60 then 15 I believe there are around 25,000 people resettled here in the U.S. and that goes with the other “National” groups just how many members do you have? Slow steps will get you to the same place as someone running, By the way in the last month we had a a father beaten on his way to work and two young boys just yesterday were jumped on their way home from school Not to mention others who have been intimidated and accosted, We had a grandmother fall and break her leg,a hit and run,a new arrival fell down the stairs to the basement because of improper knowledge of the house, and many many more problems,Seniors sitting at home alone and small children playing and wandering off alone. How about taking on some of these all “National Groups” Small steps…

  27. Dear Druk,
    I am sure you dont have vote for both the groups.I on my part is least bothered about both.I am not a member of both.I speak as individual.I Know you personally but you use pseudo name to write comments.
    One of your comment above sounds hollow.If you are not bothered about these groups why should you divide Bhutaneses in terms of family brands now? A gentleman of your caliber should have done otherwise.We expect you to put malam patti in wounds that crippled our society .Now you have started to campaign to divide on Family Brands.I belong to Bhandari family.
    Your coment seems to be same as that of a DEFEATING BULL.As our elders say “Defeating bull Diahorehea habit,going up to the hill and shouting habit” I proudly tell you that I can lead thousands of fools like you if you really want but don’t try to use family names as above,Bhandari family,RAi family Acharya family…….. and so on.
    I am sorry for I have to be hard at you at this point.If you have queries come on line and we discuss face to face.I have your id with me and hope you have mine.
    God Bless.

  28. Bill Wischmeyer.What is the point here? Are you running campaign in favor of ABA? What we got to do with state department while we are talking about community activities and social work?? Please forget about that project in D.C and grant that dropped down with IRC assistance. What ABA did or have done when a young man passed away in Massachusetts???? Can you imagine what happend to those few Bhutanese who were living in that area? Here we really need to talk about services delivery and benefits for our folks in time of needs.I don’t think ABA’s board was dissolved at that time? It seems you understood the root, but you don’t want to agree. Why do you think ABA should have captainship over all the Bhutanese in America. Why ABA is against the local community organization? …………………………
    Thanks.

  29. Bhim, I do not think ABA should have captainship over anyone in fact I think all of you are jumping the gun for your own agendas as I have stated before.” National groups are usually formed only when many smaller groups are formed then they are united….to form a national group without proven leadership is a disaster and will cause division….I know from experience”.
    Brim this is a social issue “Maybe ABA can be alittle transparent and share with the readers the program in place that they started with the grant money for Washington and Baltimore. How much the Grant was for and a breakdown of the grant and its intended use. This could give the readers the choice to join or not at present there are some 4-5 “National” groups all claiming to represent the Bhutanese people when in reality they can only represent the folks who are members of their respective groups.” Brim I have written two posts and think they are clear what I stand for. I believe that the local communities should work together first In Rochester,N.Y. we have some 800 people and this national group thing is dividing the community. How sad

  30. Bhimji, We all the Bhutanese have a lot of responsibilities towards the State Dept. How come you forget the role of the State Dept. so quickly after landing in the US? Remember how restless you were at the IOM office . You seem to be speaking against anybody and everybody.. Bhutanese govt, Nepalese Govt., IOM, Camp Secretaries, ABA, Resettlement Agencies, .. and now you have started questioning the role of the State Dept. After the OBCA Convention, you will surely start barking at OBCA leaders. Keep up your tradition and culture!

  31. ABA has held community meetings in the areas in Maryland where the BCP has been launched, giving presentation about the goals of the project, the programmatic and financial details in the grant, the history of how ABA managed to get the grant, what ABA’s role is in the project and what IRC’s role is in it. In two locations in Maryland, we have facilitated the constitution of program committees (Bhutanese Program Committee in Baltimore and Bhutanese Program Action Committee in DC suburbs) to advice, guide and assist in the implementation of the project. We had difficult conversations and it took us sometime to get to understand what the community’s concerns were and what ABA’s limitations were and what best services we could get out of it. Now, we are about to launch services. If people are sincerely willing to talk without assigning moral badges to folks they have not even met or spoken to, we can work together because our history, our future and our needs are quite intertwined.

    ABA provides monthly report (program progress and financial) to IRC and they submit reports to the ORR every six months. Our first six month report has just been submitted and we will make it available online on our website sometime soon.

    Membership rolls (just a little over sixty so far and growing) are not a priority for ABA at the moment. Figuring out how we can establish it as a credible organization worth supporting is. The people who sign up to be members are people who support the goals and mission of the organization whether or not we have services available.

    ABA has been involved in conflict resolutions, assistance in natural disasters (fire) etc. There seems to be this misperception that ABA should be able to come up with assistance (mostly financial) out of thin air. The assistance comes from the community. If people shout themselves hoarse against an organization for not helping while all they have done is oppose its existence, there is not much one can say in response to that.

    Some of the report of the activities is available at http://www.abaconvention.org

    There will always be one need or the other that ABA (or any other organization in place) will fail to meet. We will continue to have those who will berate an organization for not meeting what they think should be the main mission. There will be folks who will blame a ‘national’ organization for not being operational in all fifty states, in all cities. We don’t have very capable organization yet. One will not drop from the sky. We have to gradually build it. ABA may not have the most capable Bhutanese involved in it now, but the current leadership is inviting those capable folks out there to please come in and take the mantle of leadership and lead us. Would it not be better to pick up an organization that has some semblance of a structure and has been funded to create those basic infrastructure for an organization to function THAN to divide our human resources creating multiple groups? That was the crux of ABA’s first response to this press release.

    Services also do not drop from the sky. They need to be designed/organized/funded/created by individuals using a platform, an organization with some credibility. To be able to have individuals work on providing services, we need to pay them. To pay them we need money and money comes from funders, like the federal, state, city government and foundations. Hence the talk about IRC, ORR, State Department etc.

    I am not sure where people get the idea that ABA is against local organizations. ABA has constantly held the position that as a national organization, it will collaborate with local Bhutanese organizations. Willingness to collaborate presupposes acceptance and promotion of local organizations. ABA does discourage multiple organizations with identical goals/services in a single locality. It is a bad idea to have multiple organizations at the national level whose mission, goals, services etc are exactly the same. Existence of multiple identical organizations in a single location makes it very difficult for partners and funders/supporters to work with any.

    So, ABA will take small steps. The posts up here are from a very few vocal members of the community some of whose identity we don’t really know. (As Bill mentioned, there are perhaps 25000 Bhutanese resettled so far – we heard anti-ABA outpourings from about five up here.)

    ABA wants to sincerely have conversations with those who have genuine questions, doubts etc about ABA.

    Those of you who seem to have much animosity against ABA without ever having met the organization or its staff, please know this: you owe it to yourself and to our community to at least make sure you know ABA very well before you discredit it. So, call us or meet with us when we are in Atlanta July 3-4. If you decide to continue to call us names, or accuse ABA of the most disgusting things you can think of, please be clear: ABA is here to stay, to work as hard as it can, to provide opportunity for every Bhutanese to come forward and participate/assist/lead and be served. We will take it slow, we will take small steps, but we will stick to our mission and our goal. If you think those who started ABA did so for their own benefit and are benefiting from it, please know that we will prove you wrong.

    BUT, here is a nice idea: Alternately, you nay-sayers might want to go ahead and start providing services to everyone every where and let us know how easy it is. When you do that, all of us in ABA will bow down to you and call it a day.

    Thanks,
    Hari Acharya
    ABA

  32. Brim, you need to re read my posts….They speak of everything you are talking about and I do not favor one national group over the next as I have said in my first post.
    I do understand the root and i also understand there are alot of people who seek out glory for their own purpose. Pride is distruction and will cause division which is now happening throughout your community. How sad

  33. I really support and cheer up the opinion of Bhim n Bhagirath.The idea of so
    called ABA is […].They are formed to coordinate with the high class peopleonly.They damn care ordinary people.They are handful antisocial people.We give a damn.they have to come to a point to join hands with the resettled Bhutanese and seek a common platform else they are nowhere to be seen in the days ahead.If atall ABA want to lead let the hidden faces attend the convention in Georgia without fail else they end up complete failure.OBCA
    is the org.formed in the general interest and for every resettled Bhutanese.Let us all cheer up for best by OBCA.

  34. MON BDR.JI,I Think you are right. I bark and open my mouth every where if our folks are taking advantages of situation for personal benefits,advancement,promotion,interest etc.
    But i was not saying we dame care state dept.Relation with govt.officials in state dept.ORR,ORR state coordinators,state Human Resources dept.,Volags,Agencies,Social adjustment officers of each states, is office task and not necessarily needed to open up for public. Bhutanese folks are not interested to know what ABA or OBCA Have done with state dept.State dept. clearly knows that Bhutanese are divided,different convention dates,ABA was formed by asylee,OBCA by both. so state dept. won’t discriminate either groups and their functions.
    Hari ji,Thanks for your explanation,but folks are wondering why other ABA members are not caring about this ongoing discussion. It’s very important for transparency and trust.Now it looks like one man run organization. Folks in Georgia and California have lots of complain of ABA’s past activities and ABA was against the local organization because ABA didn’t coordinate, but tried to nominate few folks as representatives from each places and representatives run their business in their own. 2008 convention divided people in California. There are two groups in a small bay area of Alamida,BACC and BASCO.2008 convention did not call or invite other organizations and said it’s strictly for members. But things changed in 2009, how ABA convention involved lots of Bhutanese in Virginia.
    Hari ji, Could you please tell some about why ABA didn’t extend any help in the death that happend in Machussatees last year? I raised this concern because there were only two families in that area. As a national organization what should have been done and what roll ABA could have played? But few months later a death in Virginia was aired by ABA executive director and other members as well.

  35. All the Bhutanese problems in the US have a deep root in Atlanta. Atlanta has become Kurukshetra…where the Pandavas and the Kauravas are fighting almost everyday… We have Tom and Jerry who never get along with each other. ………………???????????????????????????????????????????
    ??????????????????????????????

  36. Having read almost all the comments put forth by all egoists,I felt like writing my opinion.ABA was heard in the Refugee camp after the resettlement
    process was at its height.There are a few people who have not seen the refugee camps therefore give a damn and we the resettled Bhutanese should never compromise with them.We have our our own history that can’t be erased easily.The org. shoiuld be able to aim at the welbeing of all the Bhutanese not only the so called highclass people.We are in majority therefore forget those opportunists n better make the upcoming convention by OBCA successful.The main motive of this new org. is for a change.I had been to the States for two years but had not seen n heard ABA’s programme in the interest of the resettled Bhutanese ofcourse their name is heard.The only alternative they have is to join the newly formed org.else they end up drastic failure.Even in Atlanta there are a few but are behind the curtain.I feel tha
    we must go for a change.Make our org.strong for its longrun implementation for general being.Let us all cheer up and be optimistic for positive change.

  37. Heres an Idea and the way most National Assoc are formed.
    1) help the local communities form their local associations(it gives the local communities a sense of belonging and a voice..In America we call this pride in ownership).
    2) help each local community identify the problem areas they are facing and provide solutions and advocacy to the local groups.
    3) share with others the successes of other communities throughout the United States. (of which there are many)such as the first Radio broadcast in Atlanta or the new Grocery store that opened in Atlanta and how they did it so others can learn, What the youth are doing, Business development, Job resources etc.
    4) hire an outside accountant to provide honest accounting and fairness to the groups.
    5) Always Remember “its not you against them” Its you working with them. and remember there are NO caste systems in the United States all are created equal all have rights and responsibilities.
    6) Its not about whos first out of the gate (as with a horse race the first horse out of the gate usually loses)but empowering local community org to develop and be a voice in their communities. Remember the United States is “Many Cultures One Community”.
    7) Because of what I do with the Bhutanese community in Rochester many other American community “Refugee” orgs. ask me for access to the Bhutanesee community I tell them and I am going to tell you all the same thing “You have no right to the Bhutanese community individals and collectivly until you develop a personal relationship with each and everyone of them visit their homes, break bread with them Teach them and most importantly help each person to know and feel welcome all have a feeling of hope but now we must help develop that hope into reality.
    8) Believe it or not you already have an informal National org it formed naturally, the Bhutanese community shares with their many friends and family members throughout the world the issues and successes they face in their respective communities and they do it well. (without self appointed leadership or formal national groups)What they need is the how to’s, how to deal with issues facing each one as a person,family and community.
    I hope that I do not offend anyone these are only my opinions/
    Bill

  38. Only a few people have spoken here. This is not even a trickle out of the 20,000 plus Bhutanese people who currently livin in the US. I believe for a national organization to begin, we need more people to express their views online or offline. This is not even an opinion poll.

    And there are those people who will prefer not to be in the front lines of any organizations. They will not join either of these organization. They are watching and not even expressing anything. They are the silent players. Some of them could be very potential contributors turned cynical because of the division, some are just cynical. Let June be over and we will see how players start playing their games.

  39. Takaji and PK ji,
    I too agree with you but the fact is I have never seen two fishermen fishing in the same pond at a time.We might make them fish together but they’ll quarrel at any time.

  40. If these two giants- ABA and OBCA do not compromise and avoid discussion, youths in general are not going to support. Time has come to compromise and have a single NATIONAL organization. Youth are watching you closely.

    Good luck.

    youth- US

  41. @ Bhim.. let me try to answer your questions and respond to some of your comments here:
    Hari ji,Thanks for your explanation,but folks are wondering why other ABA members are not caring about this ongoing discussion. It’s very important for transparency and trust.Now it looks like one man run organization.

    –Well, other ABA members are concerned about what is going on now. It is just that they don’t think it appropriate to come here and start blaming everybody else except oneself. ABA has a system in place for members with concerns – they contact ABA to discuss their concerns, provide suggestions for solutions, provide constructive criticisms. They don’t go online to rail at the organization because they accept the fact that ABA is run by people just like them who have to ration out time, resources and energy away from the hectic life here to do what little they can for ABA.
    One man run organization? Well, there are very few among us who can create a situation where we can work two-three jobs at the same time. There will be few of us running around like a headless chicken to meet the requirements of running an organization. So, frankly, ABA at the moment is run by few people who can fork out more time than others. There are some who can give two hours a week, there are some who can give two hours a month, there are some who only can afford time to answer a few emails a month. So, no, we don’t have an army of staff. And very few of us have time to respond to inane stuff, but some times we are forced to.

    Folks I n Georgia and California have lots of complain of ABA’s past activities and ABA was against the local organization because ABA didn’t coordinate, but tried to nominate few folks as representatives from each places and representatives run their business in their own.
    –Folks in Georgia and California have not contacted ABA with complaints. (It is interesting that they decided to complain about ABA to you!) If they have concerns, then they are welcome to contact ABA and ask ABA for clarification, assistance, solution etc. A direct contact may lead to clarification of the imputed activities vs. real activities. Not contacting ABA about concerns but spreading perceived opinions in the community only makes the non-existent problem appear more and more real.

    2008 convention divided people in California. There are two groups in a small bay area of Alamida, BACC and BASCO.

    –Not true. BASCO did not exist in June 2008. Those friends who ultimately established BASCO as well as those who were running BACC participated fully in ABA convention in 2008. All of them helped, all of them came together, all of them participated in voting for the Board, in running for the Board, in organizing outdoor events.

    2008 convention did not call or invite other organizations and said it’s strictly for members.
    –Not True. ABA invited every Bhutanese we had contact information for. ABA DID NOT say it was strictly for members. There were very few new arrivals who could have travelled to California in 2008. Those in California were invited and participated.

    But things changed in 2009, how ABA convention involved lots of Bhutanese in Virginia.
    –The number of Bhutanese in 2009 increased, so participation was higher.

    Hari ji, Could you please tell some about why ABA didn’t extend any help in the death that happend in Machussatees last year?

    –ABA helped in three fire incidents, but could not help in ALL fire incidents in the camps.
    ABA helped many families when they arrived in the US, but ABA could not help ALL families.
    ABA assisted in some tragic incidents in the US, but ABA could not assist in ALL incidents.
    What this means is that, we can have 20 different organizations and there will still be some needs we can not meet. A gazillion parties and organizations we have had for two decades were still unable to get us back to Bhutan or to establish human rights and democracy in Bhutan, as has been their stated goal and mission. They wanted to, they tried to, but they couldn’t. There are some things called successes and failures, achieving either of which does not negate our existence. By your own admission, there are much more capable leaders among us Bhutanese than those currently involved in ABA. Perhaps their involvement in ABA or similar organization (or they replacing those currently leading us) may help us meet more needs than we currently do. That, I think, has consistently been the mantra here recently and I, for one, would really like to see them involved.

    –Your insinuation that ABA deliberately decided to not assist in some cases while going out of the way to assist in others is just outright not true.
    Since you seem to have so many questions the consequence of which could be a deeper division than healing of wounds, if any, I invite you to please contact us at ABA so we get a chance to really answer your questions in detail. This invite goes out to everyone who has concerns or questions or need for clarifications.

  42. Subject: ABA initiated Bhutanese Community in America(OBCA)

    Dear Bhutani Daju-Bhai Didi-Bainee,
    Please be advised that this email is not written with any intention to promote the OBCA, nor to deface the ABA. I just sincerely want to clearly reveal SOME FACTS THAT EVERY SOCIALLY CONSIOUS BHUTANESE MUST TAKE SERIOUSLY.
    Let’s think about the honest answers for these questions first:
    What is ABA? What is OBCA? How and when are each of the two formed? What is the history of the origin of each one? Where do they intersect? Where do they diverge? Once again, let’s think in the perspective of a “general public” and not as a supporter of any of these organizations because your family relatives hold a portfolio in either one.
    When the OBCA circulated its press release with the declaration of its first national convention in Georgia, the sum of personal and institutional demonstrations, publicity and advertisements have been mounting each day radically.
    In less than an hour after the publication of the news of OBCA formation in BNS.com, Hari Acharya threw a cumbersome story of ABA into the comment blog. Thanks media for providing the public with this opportunity to hear the name of ABA (for the first time to many). He is now actively seen with his instant responses to straighten the posted comments in his best possible way to magnetize the concentrations.
    I strongly disagree with Mr. Hari Acharya, based on the facts and myths which so far have been open secrets. Hadn’t ABA initiated the formation of Bhutanese Community in America, I guarantee the first national convention of OBCA in Georgia on 18th and 19th of June wouldn’t have been slated. With respect, I request Mr. Acharya to not to bring confusion among the people with hoax notions. Hari Sir, let me be a little sneaky to ask you this – Who was the Chairman of the 17 member working group for the formation of Bhutanese Community in America? I want to hear from you Hari Acharya sir! And one of the founding members of ABA had once claimed to me that all the Bhutanese Communities under-organization in different states go under ABA, where I had to defend against this statement. He further had added that ABA would come with programs once all the new arrivals are well established. My answer to him was: “LAGAN PACHI KO POTAE KO K KAM?”
    If there was a common plat-form like what we are designing, the proposal brought up by Mr. Parangkush Subedi to break the ice by helping the EARTH QUAKE VICTIMS in Bhutan would have been successful. There are hundreds of issues that have to be solved by us commonly. I believe receiving the new arrivals at the airport, interpreting, consoling the depressed families, helping youths and adults with schools and employment, helping the families of the deceased, starting Nepali classes, preserving the Bhutanese Nepali cultural and traditional values, helping fire victims back in the camps etc definitely do not fall under deplorable works.
    Knowing the fact “United We Stand, Divided We Fall”, I’m compelled to decide to attend the Convention of OBCA representing Bhutanese Community in Nebraska. I never wished to divide Bhutanese into so called IOM bags and Conference bags. We have the same objectives and the destination. But I can’t pay $30 per head for about three hundred Bhutanese living in Nebraska which amounts $30 x 300 people = $9000.00 every year. This amount is almost over six lakhs Nepali currency. To be clear, membership based organizations always give primary preference to their members. If Bhutanese living in more then 35 states in USA belong to ABA, why didn’t they divide the grant of IRC equally to its member states??? Mr. Hari Acharya proudly declared 60 members in ABA in four years. So, how many years does it take to include 60,000 Bhutanese coming to USA? Only 15 members in a year??? I’m truly sorry Acharya sir!!! My commitment to all those who read this message is; I’d right a way forward the resignation to the Grievance Committee of BCN, if a single Bhutanese in Nebraska says that he/she doesn’t belong to the Bhutanese Community in Nebraska.
    Here under is a copy-paste of ABA ’s invitation of its upcoming convention. Looks like the invitation has incorporated the agenda:
    “On Friday evening, we will meet and mingle and have some fabulous dinner for guests coming from outside of Atlanta . On Saturday, we will have the official convention, including the election to seven seats on the Board of directors, hear about ABA’s activities, ask about ABA and general Bhutanese situation in America etc. In the evening, we will have a music night, led by a DJ. (There is a cover charge). On Sunday, `we will go on a sightseeing trip around Atlanta ”
    Do these agenda cover the untold sufferings that many Bhutanese in America are undergoing? Is there a thought to diagnose the problems of the ground level Bhutanese and the possible ways to avert them in the days to come? Isn’t the pain and anguish of these families to be prioritized by an organization that claims itself to be a national organization?
    -Hari Lal Adhakari shot to dead
    -Tika Koirala, and Sita Maya Magar a little girl killed in different traffic mishaps
    -Jit Bdr. Pradhan, Krisna Kumar Rai, and a Khadka from Texas committed suicide
    -Gopal Koirala, and Adhakaris from Washington , Katel from Arizona , who have been struggling between the life and death after losing the physical abilities caused by accidents
    –Bhagwat Rai in Texas -Janga Bdr an old man of 64 drop tears everyday
    -Guna Maya Rai has not been eating for over five months, being enveloped by multiple depressions
    -How can we solve the financial issues that have always compelled many Bhutanese to leave the dead bodies for several days in mortuaries before the funeral?
    Please think seriously of these FACTS where we are undergoing through this traumatic situation. It’s my hearty request. It’s very easy to just write when we are free from problems or have enough leisure time. But, once go and visit one of such families in person in your neighborhood and feel their heart in you. Go and give time to those families where no one is an English literate. In the name of unity, if I have to discard all these sufferings, I’d better ignore that “NOMINAL” unity and start my practicable job from with in the spirit.

    When Tika Koiral died in a fatal car crash in Tennesse leaving behind the five toddlers and his unhealthy wife the small Bhutanese Community of Tennessee was able to contribute a sum of around $4000 to support the family with rent and utility. Few other states helped financially. Did ABA exist then? Certainly yes, but did it even express a word of sympathy to the bereaved family? Is it ABA who deposited about $6,000.00 for the families of the deceased (family of Sita Maya Magar in Georgia) after meeting the funeral expenses? Definitely not. Is that ABA helping the new families in more than 35 states of America at the airport, at the offices interpreting, medical appointments, schools, employments, shopping, housing, SSI, DHHS offices, in situations after 8 months, green cards etc…Had ABA been there, why did the youth volunteers initiate the Volunteer Group to help the families of the deceased? The public isn’t that foolish. We have by now learnt to judge what is right and wrong.
    Folks, let’s understand the fact. Mr. Manoj Rai is neither the President of OBCA nor the initiator. He just came forward voluntarily to help the organizing committee to unite the sprinkled Bhutanese across America. Let’s not make an issue. And the Chief Coordinators and other associates are not the portfolio holders of OBCA. They are just volunteering in order to bring every Bhutanese together. The plat form is designed for you and other Bhutanese who have felt its real need. Therefore, your participation is of great importance. It’s in you who to hand the future of Bhutanese in America. In your absence the plat-form might go to the hand of a wrong person. Please be aware and participate in the Convention. Yet you’re not late. You’ve almost a month in hand. . If the problem is of travel expenses and leave from your employers that could be an unavoidable circumstance. The organizing committee has to be sorry for that. But they have expected our concern certainly.

    Topics to be decided in the first session on 18th of June:
    1) Organizational name: Bhutanese Community in America (BCA) or Organization of Bhutanese Communities in America (OBCA).
    2) Head Office, Regional offices, State Level offices and city offices.
    3) The procedure to figure the Board of Directors: Election, nomination or consensus?
    4) Formulate the By-laws. (Give a final shape)
    5) Signing resolutions to assist to overcome the wide variety of sufferings and problems the Bhutanese are undergoing each day while coping up with the entirely new environment.
    6) The Bhutanese in many states have been genuinely feeling the need of an organized community. To help them in all possible ways to live in the organized community where the mutual help could be traded and an avenue could be created to access the resource of assistance.

    “Facts are apt to alarm us more than the most dangerous principles”

    Kumar Gurung

  43. Subject: ABA initiated Bhutanese Community in America(OBCA)

    Dear Bhutani Daju-Bhai Didi-Bainee,
    Please be advised that this email is not written with any intention to promote the OBCA, nor to deface the ABA. I just sincerely want to clearly reveal SOME FACTS THAT EVERY SOCIALLY CONSIOUS BHUTANESE MUST TAKE SERIOUSLY.
    Let’s think about the honest answers for these questions first:
    What is ABA? What is OBCA? How and when are each of the two formed? What is the history of the origin of each one? Where do they intersect? Where do they diverge? Once again, let’s think in the perspective of a “general public” and not as a supporter of any of these organizations because your family relatives hold a portfolio in either one.
    When the OBCA circulated its press release with the declaration of its first national convention in Georgia, the sum of personal and institutional demonstrations, publicity and advertisements have been mounting each day radically.
    In less than an hour after the publication of the news of OBCA formation in BNS.com, Hari Acharya threw a cumbersome story of ABA into the comment blog. Thanks media for providing the public with this opportunity to hear the name of ABA (for the first time to many). He is now actively seen with his instant responses to straighten the posted comments in his best possible way to magnetize the concentrations.
    I strongly disagree with Mr. Hari Acharya, based on the facts and myths which so far have been open secrets. Hadn’t ABA initiated the formation of Bhutanese Community in America, I guarantee the first national convention of OBCA in Georgia on 18th and 19th of June wouldn’t have been slated. With respect, I request Mr. Acharya to not to bring confusion among the people with hoax notions. Hari Sir, let me be a little sneaky to ask you this – Who was the Chairman of the 17 member working group for the formation of Bhutanese Community in America? I want to hear from you Hari Acharya sir! And one of the founding members of ABA had once claimed to me that all the Bhutanese Communities under-organization in different states go under ABA, where I had to defend against this statement. He further had added that ABA would come with programs once all the new arrivals are well established. My answer to him was: “LAGAN PACHI KO POTAE KO K KAM?”
    If there was a common plat-form like what we are designing, the proposal brought up by Mr. Parangkush Subedi to break the ice by helping the EARTH QUAKE VICTIMS in Bhutan would have been successful. There are hundreds of issues that have to be solved by us commonly. I believe receiving the new arrivals at the airport, interpreting, consoling the depressed families, helping youths and adults with schools and employment, helping the families of the deceased, starting Nepali classes, preserving the Bhutanese Nepali cultural and traditional values, helping fire victims back in the camps etc definitely do not fall under deplorable works.
    Knowing the fact “United We Stand, Divided We Fall”, I’m compelled to decide to attend the Convention of OBCA representing Bhutanese Community in Nebraska. I never wished to divide Bhutanese into so called IOM bags and Conference bags. We have the same objectives and the destination. But I can’t pay $30 per head for about three hundred Bhutanese living in Nebraska which amounts $30 x 300 people = $9000.00 every year. This amount is almost over six lakhs Nepali currency. To be clear, membership based organizations always give primary preference to their members. If Bhutanese living in more then 35 states in USA belong to ABA, why didn’t they divide the grant of IRC equally to its member states??? Mr. Hari Acharya proudly declared 60 members in ABA in four years. So, how many years does it take to include 60,000 Bhutanese coming to USA? Only 15 members in a year??? I’m truly sorry Acharya sir!!! My commitment to all those who read this message is; I’d right a way forward the resignation to the Grievance Committee of BCN, if a single Bhutanese in Nebraska says that he/she doesn’t belong to the Bhutanese Community in Nebraska.
    Here under is a copy-paste of ABA ’s invitation of its upcoming convention. Looks like the invitation has incorporated the agenda:
    “On Friday evening, we will meet and mingle and have some fabulous dinner for guests coming from outside of Atlanta . On Saturday, we will have the official convention, including the election to seven seats on the Board of directors, hear about ABA’s activities, ask about ABA and general Bhutanese situation in America etc. In the evening, we will have a music night, led by a DJ. (There is a cover charge). On Sunday, `we will go on a sightseeing trip around Atlanta ”
    Do these agenda cover the untold sufferings that many Bhutanese in America are undergoing? Is there a thought to diagnose the problems of the ground level Bhutanese and the possible ways to avert them in the days to come? Isn’t the pain and anguish of these families to be prioritized by an organization that claims itself to be a national organization?
    -Hari Lal Adhakari shot to dead
    -Tika Koirala, and Sita Maya Magar a little girl killed in different traffic mishaps
    -Jit Bdr. Pradhan, Krisna Kumar Rai, and a Khadka from Texas committed suicide
    -Gopal Koirala, and Adhakaris from Washington , Katel from Arizona , who have been struggling between the life and death after losing the physical abilities caused by accidents
    –Bhagwat Rai in Texas -Janga Bdr an old man of 64 drop tears everyday
    -Guna Maya Rai has not been eating for over five months, being enveloped by multiple depressions
    -How can we solve the financial issues that have always compelled many Bhutanese to leave the dead bodies for several days in mortuaries before the funeral?
    Please think seriously of these FACTS where we are undergoing through this traumatic situation. It’s my hearty request. It’s very easy to just write when we are free from problems or have enough leisure time. But, once go and visit one of such families in person in your neighborhood and feel their heart in you. Go and give time to those families where no one is an English literate. In the name of unity, if I have to discard all these sufferings, I’d better ignore that “NOMINAL” unity and start my practicable job from with in the spirit.

    When Tika Koiral died in a fatal car crash in Tennesse leaving behind the five toddlers and his unhealthy wife the small Bhutanese Community of Tennessee was able to contribute a sum of around $4000 to support the family with rent and utility. Few other states helped financially. Did ABA exist then? Certainly yes, but did it even express a word of sympathy to the bereaved family? Is it ABA who deposited about $6,000.00 for the families of the deceased (family of Sita Maya Magar in Georgia) after meeting the funeral expenses? Definitely not. Is that ABA helping the new families in more than 35 states of America at the airport, at the offices interpreting, medical appointments, schools, employments, shopping, housing, SSI, DHHS offices, in situations after 8 months, green cards etc…Had ABA been there, why did the youth volunteers initiate the Volunteer Group to help the families of the deceased? The public isn’t that foolish. We have by now learnt to judge what is right and wrong.
    Folks, let’s understand the fact. Mr. Manoj Rai is neither the President of OBCA nor the initiator. He just came forward voluntarily to help the organizing committee to unite the sprinkled Bhutanese across America. Let’s not make an issue. And the Chief Coordinators and other associates are not the portfolio holders of OBCA. They are just volunteering in order to bring every Bhutanese together. The plat form is designed for you and other Bhutanese who have felt its real need. Therefore, your participation is of great importance. It’s in you who to hand the future of Bhutanese in America. In your absence the plat-form might go to the hand of a wrong person. Please be aware and participate in the Convention. Yet you’re not late. You’ve almost a month in hand. . If the problem is of travel expenses and leave from your employers that could be an unavoidable circumstance. The organizing committee has to be sorry for that. But they have expected our concern certainly.

    Topics to be decided in the first session on 18th of June:
    1) Organizational name: Bhutanese Community in America (BCA) or Organization of Bhutanese Communities in America (OBCA).
    2) Head Office, Regional offices, State Level offices and city offices.
    3) The procedure to figure the Board of Directors: Election, nomination or consensus?
    4) Formulate the By-laws. (Give a final shape)
    5) Signing resolutions to assist to overcome the wide variety of sufferings and problems the Bhutanese are undergoing each day while coping up with the entirely new environment.
    6) The Bhutanese in many states have been genuinely feeling the need of an organized community. To help them in all possible ways to live in the organized community where the mutual help could be traded and an avenue could be created to access the resource of assistance.

    “Facts are apt to alarm us more than the most dangerous principles”

    Kumar Gurung
    Nebraska

  44. Subject: ABA initiated Bhutanese Community in America(OBCA)

    I strongly disagree with Mr. Hari Acharya, based on the facts and myths which so far have been open secrets. Hadn’t ABA initiated the formation of Bhutanese Community in America, I guarantee the first national convention of OBCA in Georgia on 18th and 19th of June wouldn’t have been slated. With respect, I request Mr. Acharya to not to bring confusion among the people with hoax notions. Hari Sir, let me be a little sneaky to ask you this – Who was the Chairman of the 17 member working group for the formation of Bhutanese Community in America? I want to hear from you Hari Acharya sir! And one of the founding members of ABA had once claimed to me that all the Bhutanese Communities under-organization in different states go under ABA, where I had to defend against this statement. He further had added that ABA would come with programs once all the new arrivals are well established. My answer to him was: “LAGAN PACHI KO POTAE Ko K Kam”
    To know my complete opinion, please visit the comments on RP Subba’s article.

    Kumar Gurung
    Nebraska

  45. Dear Writers,

    Subject: ABA initiated Bhutanese Community in America(OBCA)

    To know my opinion, please visit the comments on RP Subba’s article.

    Kumar Gurung
    Nebraska

  46. Hi all,
    It is my fervent request to all the Bhutanese friends that organizations like OBCA will be in the offing in the days to come. Many will appear and vanish like the political parties formed by our so called NETAS in Nepal. We, as intellectuals have to watch the organizers of such organizations closely, but keep ourselves from indulging in them. When there was ABA, why was it necessary to form another organization like OBCA which has the same goals and principles? I would say that we could have strengthened ABA, and made it more inclusive by some major overhauls of the modus operandi of it. All our ill fated and out dated self proclaimed NETAS want to lead and project themselves, so that there might be some fast money by selling our names. I am not vouching that ABA is the best, neither I am a member of ABA nor a relative of its members….I am trying to make a point that we want a single national level Bhutanese organization to represent our community.
    I am not at all happy with the way people like BM Rai, DJ Rai, Bhakti Bhandari et al are trying to concoct divide and rule policy with in the community. These guys and some of their hench men (or, little softer yes-men) are the main initiators of this so called OBCA. None of them are qualified and competent to lead our community at large, and none of our intellectuals are in this organization.
    Dear Bhutanese dajus, bhais, didis and bahinis, let us wait…….let us do some progress now…..and when we reach a certain level… think about such an organization where all the intellectuals will be included, and where we can have some healthy discussion about maintaining what we want to maintain rather than bicker on petty matters. This can be done either by strengthening an existing organization, or by forming another one, but let it be a unique organization where all Bhutanese can have a space.
    God bless every resettled Bhutanese…..

  47. Folks,
    I went from first to last Kumar Gurung’s opinion. Accept my salute Kumarji. It shows you have well gone through the hearts of genuine sufferers. You have understood the pain and sufferings of uneducated and betrayed families resettled in America.
    I express gratitude to you for opening the eyes of general community about what ABA is and OBCA is heading towards…. I have whole hearted support to the agenda of OBCA. I can be one of your followers. Keep going ahead. World will understand what you really mean…..I would further appreciate for merging ABA to OBCA… all the best….

  48. Hari,Try this again. The whole readers have seen what is true and what is not.. You wrote to answer my concerns, but you seems too leaned towards your own feelings and personal believes.

    You talked about system in ABA…It’s so easy to set up a system when members are within a circle of friends. All members of ABA are rats of same hole or carrot of same row. what is system,mechanism and operation????

    So, frankly, ABA at the moment is run by few people who can fork out more time than others. There are some who can give two hours a week, there are some who can give two hours a month, there are some who only can afford time to answer a few emails a month. So, no, we don’t have an army of staff. And very few of us have time to respond to inane stuff, but some times we are forced to.

    It’s true, no ABA members have time. One of your Board members have already mentioned that ABA is just for conducting convention every year not anything more.

    Folks in Georgia and California have not contacted ABA with complaints. (It is interesting that they decided to complain about ABA to you!) If they have concerns, then they are welcome to contact ABA and ask ABA for clarification, assistance, solution etc. A direct contact may lead to clarification of the imputed activities vs. real activities. Not contacting ABA about concerns but spreading perceived opinions in the community only makes the non-existent problem appear more and more real.

    People arrived with expectation and hopes. when we found ABA heading in personal interest and organization was formed as member base, actually people were sharing frustration.

    Not true. BASCO did not exist in June 2008. Those friends who ultimately established BASCO as well as those who were running BACC participated fully in ABA convention in 2008. All of them helped, all of them came together, all of them participated in voting for the Board, in running for the Board, in organizing outdoor events.

    Folks in Georgia and California experienced division when ABA was formed without ground work. when average people were neglected, insulted and their opinions were down played.

    Not True. ABA invited every Bhutanese we had contact information for. ABA DID NOT say it was strictly for members. There were very few new arrivals who could have travelled to California in 2008. Those in California were invited and participated

    A mail was sent to the host whether they want to have convention of ABA or organization in America. The test was not sweet for all. ABA wanted to run bulldozer on the back of other.

    ABA helped in three fire incidents, but could not help in ALL fire incidents in the camps.
    ABA helped many families when they arrived in the US, but ABA could not help ALL families.
    ABA assisted in some tragic incidents in the US, but ABA could not assist in ALL incidents

    That is all so far??being a national organization..

    People are laughing at ABA today.

  49. @Bhim: There still is a genuine question in your comment: “That is all so far??being a national organization.. People are laughing at ABA today” The examples Icited were just that – examples. Please check http://www.abaconvention.org/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=6:aba-report-2009&catid=1&Itemid=2 for ABA’s activities until July 2009. We will make details of ABA’s activities after July 2009 at the convention this July and then make it available online.

  50. Bhimji, Laughter is the best medicine of all. You need to laugh more at ABA. After the OBCA Convention, people will laugh at you. Our people have learnt how to laugh at others. Even amidst your hectic schedule of getting your supporters to Kothay Baithak, you get time to laugh at ABA.Do not do to others what you don’t want others to do to you. You folks in Georgia should get organized and prepare everything to make this convention a success.The more we think about ABA, the more pain we have to endure. Remember the saying, “You cannot harm others without harming yourself”.

  51. HARI, PEOPLE DON’T HAVE TIME TO GO THROUGH SUCH LINKS LIKE ABA MEMBERS HAVE CONCERNS WHAT IS GOING ON,BUT DON’T HAVE HEART TO WRITE A COMMENT. TO ME THE LINK YOU SHOWED, IN TWO WORDS “THING SMALL DO BIG”.

    KUMAR HAS INJECTED ENOUGH AND I DON’T WANT TO SPELL TOO MUCH. AND WE WONDER WHAT HAS PUSHED YOU BACK TO WRITE COMMENTS ON KUMAR’S QUESTIONS AND CONCERNS.???????

    FEW REMAINING ARE AS FOLLOW.

    ABA DID NOT INVITE DIFFERENT BHUTANESE ORGANIZATION IN THEIR PAST CONVENTION. FOLKS FROM CALIFORNIA WERE NOT ALLOWED TO ATTAIN AS AN INDIVIDUAL OR OTHER ORGANIZATION MEMBERS IN THE MEETING WITH STATE DEPT.

    ABA MOTIVATED FOLKS IN CALIFORNIA ONLY FOR CONVENTION PURPOSE AND LATER BOTH THE GROUPS WERE DUMP. SO PEOPLE FROM CALIFORNIA DID NOT ATTAIN 2ND CONVENTION IN VIRGINIA.
    ABA WENT AGAINST THE LOCAL ORGANIZATION EXTREMELY AND LOCAL CHAPTER WERE SEEN AS ENEMY. I CAN BRING SOME EVIDENCES IF HARI REALLY WANTS TO SEE AND SHOW.

    MY CONCLUSION……. IN EVERY STATES AFTER RESETTLEMENT A COMMUNITY IS NECESSARY. NO ONE CAN AND SHOULD GO AGAINST FORMING A LOCAL COMMUNITY BECAUSE BASIC PROBLEMS AND ISSUES OR ACHIEVEMENTS OR PROGRESS NEED TO BE ADDRESSED BY LOCAL COMMUNITY ORGANIZATION FIRST. ONLY COMMON ISSUES AND INTEREST OF PEOPLE SHOULD BE BROUGHT IN NATIONAL ORGANIZATION OR NATIONAL LEVEL.

    WE SHOULD HAVE LOCAL COMMUNITY ORGANIZATION FIRST IN EACH STATES AND THOSE REPRESENTATIVES CAN ADDRESS ISSUES. IT’S LEGAL TO RUN ANY NON INCORPORATED GROUPS UNLESS ACTIVITIES ARE EDUCATIONAL,SOCIAL,CULTURAL ETC. IT’S NOT NECESSARILY REQUIRED BY LAWS OF ANY STATES TO BE INCORPORATED BEFORE THE INITIAL STAGE. WE MAY START AND GET REGISTERED AS A DOMESTIC NON PROFIT LATER IF MORE TIME IS REQUIRED.

    IN MY KNOWLEDGE ALMOST ALL THE STATE NOW HAVE LOCAL ORGANIZATION AND THERE ARE MORE THAN ONE IN SOME PLACES AND THEY ARE BASED IN PARTICULAR PLACE AND REGISTERED AS DOMESTIC NON PROFITS.
    AN EVIDENT SHOWS THAT ABA IS REGISTERED AS DOMESTIC NON PROFIT IN THE D.C. (INDRA LATA SHARMA IS AN INCORPORATOR OR AN AGENT)
    AND CERTAIN RESTRICTIONS APPLIES WHILE RUINING THE BUSINESS OF AN ORGANIZATION.
    THERE IS NO SUCH THING SAYS ABA SHOULD BE NATIONAL AND NO IDEA HOW THE HELL YOU WANT TO REPRESENT THE WHOLE BHUTANESE LIVING IN THE USA. WE ALSO DO NOT HAVE IDEA WHO RECOGNIZED ABA AS NATIONAL ORGANIZATION.
    SO SINCE ABA IS BASED IN D.C SUCH ORGANIZATION SHOULD ONLY REPRESENT D.C ..IT IS A PROBLEM OF D.C NOW AND NOT ELSE WHERE. CAN ABA SERVE AS A LOCAL ORGANIZATION OF D.C????????? PLEASE DO NOT WANT TO KNOW WHERE THE ROAD IS HEADING TO IF YOUR DESTINATION IS CLEAR.

    I WON’T STEP BACK FOR FEW MORE COMMENTS AGAIN.

  52. Kumarji,
    your comments sounds great.Recently there was a fire in north carolina,High point in the house of one darjee family.The lady was here for over a year but her three brothers were recent arrivals from beldangi 1 camp.The recent arrivals were critically injured and were hospitalised at Winsten Salem.At such hour ABA went on hibernations.They never figured at the scene,OBCA was not in picture then.BUt what I have learned is some prominent members of ABA went to NC for expandindg their business to woo some new arrivals.This concludes thet these people do businesss with refugees than services.
    We have experienced lots of help from American volunteers like taking to downtown for shopping,taking to hospital,giving a ride when they see us walking uphill and so on………..we really appreciate the loove and kindness of the people here for helping our folks in states for nothing…..just volunteering.They enjoy with us.But see the attitude of our own bhotangay dajus/bhais who came from camps long time………. they look help only in terms of monetary value….They never dare to volunteer,they form pocket organisations and claim to be national orgs……….SHAME ON YOU BHOTANGAYS.

    See for HAri Acharya….He went back to nepal/India after he spent some years in USA. It was learnt he felt not secure for himself to visit camp where his parents and village folks spent years .See his attitude he avoided meeting people there in the camp……
    so many horrible stories people have to tell ..so forget ABA ,It is truely a association for swarthi bhotangays who claim themselve great.Some of the members tell that they signed with the state department for us to get resettlement in United states.

  53. Hi Everybody, I’m Purna Kumari Sotang but my friends call me as Kanchi. I came to America from sanishare camp in 2009.I had just completed SLC when I came to USA. I was taken to high school for admission by my Education Specialist of Lutheran Family services. Unfortunately, I was disqualified for being 19 years old. I was asked to go for ESL classes. That made me so depressed.I even didn’t feel to eat and sleep well. My father talked to the President of Bhutanese Community existing in my state. He took me to the same school again. The school admission committee denied again.
    FInally, he took me to the Public school administrative office. HE explained the situation and requested well. After a week, the office called me and admited in one of the best schools in the city. Now I am reading in class twelve. The school has assured me for four years scholarship after I complete class twelve. But if I fail, I’ll be dis-qualified. For, I am working very hard.
    All the credits go to Bhutanese COmmunity of my state.
    Thus, I found Bhutanese Community leaders can sometimes do more than what our sponsor agencies can do. We need Bhutanese Communities in every states.
    Thank you

    Purna Kumari Sotang
    Grade-12
    Central High School

  54. Purna Kumari Bainee,
    I appreciate your intention to go to school for a better future.Thank god you got ADMISSION.I appreciate your efforts to get into to the school.
    Local Bhutanese Community helped you a lot,GOOd JOB community members,this is the point where we need to focus on to help our people right from the base.
    Bhutanese community can do more .KANCHI is just one example.keep growing BHUTANESE COMMUNITY in the United States.Forget swarthi groups.

  55. The case of Purna Kumari Bainee is very much exemplary of what we can do to help our people. This is some thing that we can do from the local level, and not from the national level. The newly arrived folks keep so much faith in the educated Bhutanese men/women, and we have to keep their faith upbeat by helping them in what ever way we can. There are so many bhais and bahinis who are almost 19-20 yrs old, but were not able to get admission in High Schools because children who graduate from high schools beyond 19 yrs are considered high school drop outs. So, the High Schools in some school districts do not want to increase their high schools drops outs by taking our kids because this will hamper their funding.
    We do not need a national organization for this case, and none of the organization will work for such cases. Organizations that are formed or will form will only create mistrust, fighting, back stabbing among our people. Our Netas have high hopes, much higher than the sky, that they will forget to dwell on such small matters. They have to think about national matters….lobbying…making good rapport with the government..and much more, but we know the ground reality how far our movement has gone and will go in future.
    There are methods to help our people in many ways. Remember folks this is a country where people like Abraham Lincoln became president though he did not have formal schooling for more than few years(I am not sure how many years). There are ways and means to study if our folks are really interested. So, we at the local levels, have to help our bhais and bahinis and show them the right path…..In such a case we do not have to advertise about forming a new organization, nor shoot a diatribe on an existing organization.

  56. Dear all,
    The concept of forming a national org.is absolutely great and necessary in the long run of permanent resettlement in the US where there are multi
    cultured,multilingual and thousands of immigrants from all over the world. With vague discussions with personal mistrust,disagreement and misunderstandings in any level and doing nothing but talking great with sweet words without action will be the bitterest root of disaster in the community in every aspects. Great Talkers are never great doers” To build a good reputation in the respective state or any level it would be very wise to take more priority in commitment by helping those families in their needs. State level has much more responsibilities towards the community as a whole. Its sounds more political, and politics,which is defined precisely as a dirty game never binds in mutual love,understanding,trust and commitment and make us remain under one umbrella. Rather aiming so high at a time and hurrying for forming the national one, why can’t we help every needy families in this hour of rigid resettlement in process in the state level. “Slowly and steady wins the race”, it may not suit for old comers but majority of the re-settlers through I.O.M.have innumerable problems where they need support in the state level. We must crystallize our vision in the state level and make every agendas according to the demand and the need of the general public at the state level. Its the crucial time for the integration for every Bhutanese and efforts should be made and given in various ways where ever we are if we’re a real social worker. It would be too early to go at national level without good foundation and having done nothing in the ground level. We must respect every positive factors but condemn the negative ones and work according to the demand of time and situations where we are. The best way for the development is without “post system” and work voluntarily but paid if the resources are available. S.Gurung,NH.

  57. Hello Bro.Sis n Well Wishers,
    Beware of the corrupted leaders and study their background very cautiously and deeply before joining any org. We had a bitter experience of the past with great scarcity who never helped even a penny but took great advantage of us and flew abroad forming parties and selling our name and status and here trying to master our destiny so easily. How dare they try to proclaim themselves as leaders. Please, Netas!!!!!! see your own face in the mirror and don’t pollute the Holy Heart of the innocent public. I should not point out the name chronologically but warn you all Netas!!! “We know that “The Voice of the People is the Voice of God”. Only the weakness is, they consider and respect everyone as Bhutanese family but don’t take advantage here in America. Gone are those days of Corruption and boasting as leaders or buddijivi..Lets learn to respect Humanity and purity in heart..Its not a personal but the true quality of a Nepali leader who ultimately have to endure great disaster due to their dirty politics and money mindedness.(Concerned, Concerns and Concerning….)

  58. -Concern: One thing you need to learn, and accept, is that no one, NO ONE is a slave to anybody here. There are no leaders, and there are no followers, unless they become American citizens and start participating in politics. In this country, establishing an organization is NOT about becoming leaders. It is about working in the area one is interested in. Many organizations will be formed by Bhutanese here with varied objectives. People with skills to manage organizations will do what they are good at. And that “good” is not defined by naysayers like you. It is defined by those who fund them and who get their services.
    Stop whining. By the look of your rants, it does not look like there is not much you can do to stop anyone who establishes an organization. If you can, try to do so.
    If someone starts an organization and provides services to one person, that is still better than nothing. The main idea here is to figure out if we can do it better than what we are doing by not dividing resources and presenting appearance of a community that is cohesive and united.
    Na ta afu sinka bhachchha arkako laaghi, na ta aru lai nai kehi garnu dinchha!

  59. Hi Concern,
    You write great things and hesitate to introduce yourself. What is the reason behind it??? Or do you fall in the same category so afraid of others who know your corruption??? hahahahaha………. be open..be transparent.. that is what actually God says….have fun…be obident to GOD…..

  60. Dear senior activists!!
    Many things are going on with the rapid motion in and around us. Basically, we are more concerned at forming bodies of bigger coverage. To speak the truth, it is never bad to open organizations as we are doing, but as far as the coverage is concerned it provokes immaturity and inappropriate timing to go loud in the national light. First of all, let us see the foundation of the body we are thinking to set up soon.

    Personally, I would like to request the concerns bodies drawing the attention in the following grounds, and these grounds are egged by the activities where we were either in the foreground or background.

    1. The Bhutanese commoners are time and again deceived by the logos opened in the name of the same purpose we are doing at the present time. Seeing back to Bhutan State Congress onwards we have opened hundreds of logos in the name of the Bhutanese people. These logos were, are and will be political, social, technical and techno-communal vowing to dedicate their stamps for the betterment of the Bhutanese individuals inland and in the hinterlands. All of these logos became and are becoming vain to the Bhutanese people because they were all either logo centered or leaders centered. OBCA for sure, is not an exception. All the organizations formed in the past came citing just the situation not the real cause and you leaders are coming with the same gusto. Let us deeply study the people’s sentiments at large before going wide through media.

    2. The mechanism you are applying through the ongoing advocacy clearly forecast that you are building a leader centered logo, if not who the commoner is advocating for the need of a national level organization for the Bhutanese in USA? Are there any journalist sensitizing this as the need for the community? Is there any writer who is advocating the citation you are advocating? Are there any common people who are not role playing as the leaders say that we need a national level organization? So, this is never a right time to think of national level organization. How about organizing in the community in each individual state.

    3. How many states have the declared status of the Bhutanese Community? How many of them have their guiding bylaws and are registered as non profit motive community organization in the respective states except Georgia, and some few others? Let as set back and work in the state level till we have the state level Bhutanese Community registered in the respective state, and empowered by their bylaws and lead by capable and social leaders who are never biased to any political logos in the past. Right now we can help to meet the basic requirements of the individual resettling fellows from Nepal in the state level.

    4. Once the resettlement is over, we will have the statistics of the people resettled in the states. By then, we will have Bhutanese Community registered and empowered in the individual states. We also will have defined leaders in the individual community who will be soliciting the local requirements of the majority. Still we need to wait if this agenda will be out spoken from the whim of people not leaders. If the leaders are whimming about the formation of Logos, it is obvious the comprehension will be in the gossip light. We are going to mass declaring ourselves as the leaders but the mass should demand our leadership. On the other hand, umbrella organization will be formed with the promotion of the many many small units of the same stature. What we are doing is minority rule to dominate the majority. Personally, I don’t suggest forming OBCA as the national level organization unless there is a Bhutanese Community in all the states to be governed by this logo later. If you want to go ahead like ABA, we don’t have any concerns, go ahead and good luck. If you are forming the all state national level organization it should have to be participated by all, at least 40 of the states with their community logo registered in the respective states not just by individuals who just attend to gossip your propagation. Forming the national level organization of the Bhutanese Communities when there are Bhutanese Communities declared in just four states isn’t like fishing in the flooded water zone for the power lust?

    5. People in the states are recalling their past, where they donated to BPP without any solicitation to their donation, their donation to AMCC where they just encourage to kill Baburam Sangdan in India, their effort to BRRRC which destroyed the thousands of charity dollars from LWF, Their contribution to hair count political parties went in vain to address the cause of the people. Garganda, RK, KB, Santiram, Mechi bridge, and many more including Ramesh Massacre are all the result of minority rule vested at dominating the mass just by hauling the surface level agenda without any determination to build roadmap to thrive the success. To speak the truth, many of the Bhutanese Refugee folks have come to resettlement so as to get rid of the organizations and many of we leaders. Let us not further make them the victims of leadership centered organizational phobia which we are intending to create. What Georgia is doing, is doing good. What Tennessee is doing, is doing excellent!!, What ABA is doing in Baltimore and Washington seems notarizing And let us further see what other states do in general and how there comes the existence of the Bhutanese Community in all the 50 states, only then we can discuss about OBCA. If we declare the Organization on 20th June in Georgia, keep this write up safe, we will just encourage the philosophy of Shankar Sharma.

    6. Your aims and objectives are pretty realistic but not practical. I would like to appeal you folks that all real things are not practical but all practical things are real in social canvas. You are advocating facilitating the resettling refugee fellows coming from Nepal to USA in the national level. What so ever the advocacy may be, but we need now in the community level in the individual states. If a state doesn’t know about the Bhutanese Community in the particular state, what is the use of inviting this and that guys in the functions in the national level?

    7. I would like to appeal all individuals who are planning to attend the convention representing the different states that let us not gather to make a castle in the air. Let us make a thorough discussion in the community in each state and seek the consent of the mass about the formation of a logo like OBCA.

    8. If you are working to form a community organization in Georgia, it is wonderful news to to the Bhutanese Communities in USA and globe.

    9. As far as the unification of OBCA, ABA or others mushroom count organization is concerned, ABA is doing some good community based activities in Baltimore and OBCA has come with emotional schema. Better OBCA may go up to Bhutanese Community in Georgia-BCG and start to work like ABA. Once we have all states level Bhutanese Community, then we may start to discus on forming a national level organization if needed. The slogans of unification might seem impractical coz the unification of ABA and OBCA will never give a National level platform, for sure it might be a good idea of compelled unification backed by individual egoism. We have seen UFD, BMSC, and many other unified stamps still existing meaninglessly among the Bhutanese mass.

    10. These are my personal opinions that might sound tasteless to you seniors.

    11. These are the opinion of a student without any political will and backup. If they seem important we can adopt otherwise keep these discussion in the parapet and go ahead as per your roadmap.

    Best Regards for appropriate pacing!!!

  61. Dear Puranaghare ji,
    Your opinion is absolutely in the right way and a strategic one. Your thought of idea is broad, far sighted, public oriented and lasting one. I would like to add more from my side. As we know, “Haste is Waste,” the proposal of forming a national org. at present will be really a tasteless one. Its high time to help local agencies individually or voluntarily for the resettlement of the new families or help community in the local level and make them understand what actual community or org. in the real sense in this huge land as the process of resettlement is still under progress. Freedom without responsibilities goes in vain or the house without foundation collapses very soon and ultimately brings chaos, misunderstandings and foster enmities at large. After being here for nearly two years, I personally experienced that our community needs maximum orientation in many aspects just to integrate or adjust in the local community. We’re just trying to make an org in the local level but still needs more help from the local agencies in terms of language, medication, education, transportation(getting driversblicense) and employment which is the most important one. Our friends and seniors are hurrying to expose their experiences and academic degree which they had back in Nepal. We absolutely have will to form one national org.and remain in unity as Bhutanese in abroad but everything has its own time. Our friends and elders may be feeling too bore by the jobs in the US or abroad for many years and trying to form the org so early and grasp the opportunity by taking advantage of innocent families. It would bring negative impact and give wrong message to our beloved well wishers as there is 100% chance to loose the reputation or image without having any concept of even org in most of the states in US or other countries. How can an org. run without supporters or the presence of public? I oppose 95% and support 5% in this matter coz we are not here to return Nepal or elsewhere so early without building our career. Most probably, 99% of the people may settle permanently and 1% may go elsewhere or Nepal after some years. It brings suspicion that the US govt. or the state do funding the minority immigrants but why not we build foundation at this time rather to collapse in hurry? We never oppose for forming state level org. but feels shy to think of so big NAIONAL LEVEL in US as if like in Nepal! I speak the opinion of the innocents and not my personal coz we have lot more to do in the state level. We pray and commit for the national one after knowing at least all the names 50 states in the US and their capitals where our innocent families are struggling for their survival. I would conclude to dissolve ABA or OBCA and Think big and live large as our senior R.P.sir said and Live and Let Live, GOD bless U all!

    Bhutanese in Exile I + Exile II(USA)
    (n lets not go for Exile III or…!!!)

  62. YesName, it seems that you lack maturity and needs more classes in terms of American History as we all need now. I never opposed to dismantle anybodys’ feeling or forming a productive, lasting, public oriented,modern society or community abroad but did you ever break a stick for the public welfare? If you’ve bring into publicity, thru any media you’ll be rewarded or thanked. You’re really the puppet or follower of corrupted leaders but be ware as an educated person we may admit and confess faults but faults committed purposely may not be forgiven by God or anybody. We can change our attitudes and behavior but should not try to lead anyone in the wrong direction but adopt right way in public if we really want to serve the community.

    Where did you find that after getting citizenship we are allowed to enter politics? It is your complete false dream or statement. Hey, little knowledge is dangerous coz Americas’ land mass and law and order cannot be accomodated in our little brain so soon. I advice you to take more ESL classes or learn more so that you’ll know more about the American history but it would hurt you more if you vomit more in this page. What varied objectives our innocent bhutanese people have? Accept to lead a peaceful life with proper food,shelter and clothing and each and every basic necessities in this initial stage after being victimized for 17 yrs in the camp by autocratic govt of Bhutan and the improper guide by our so called leaders. I have a clear and vivid picture in my mind and proper records where we’re misleaded and dominated economically by our netas as we have many incidents who were lead to death. My friend, I speak and write on behalf of all our bhutanese friends and families but not for my personal and selfish motives. Aafno dhoti samalna saknu chaina samaj ko sewa garne?? Wah,wah, we must develop ourselves first to develope others otherwise dhoti na topi hola. Adopt the principality of give and take and learn and teach but lets not try to be KALIDAS!!! Your comments and criticisms is highly welcomed and discussed openly.
    (Sorry if I misused this site)

  63. Hello Deepakji, you at least understand the innermost feelings and opinions of general public (BHUTANESE) anywhere they dwell right now. Thousands of miles to go before we sleep, obstacles comes and we should struggle in every steps ourselves rather than to be a dependent for half of our life. Lets adopt the culture of donating, serving, praying,sacrificing for other donor nations. Its shameless to whine for donations. If we really want to serve, can anyone of our seniors deserves to donate a car, finance or do charity works freely instead of dreaming for selfish motives and accumulating wealth? Its 100% sure, more than 50% of the finance will be misused or if used or if used may not be for the disabled ones,illiterates,hungry ones but for the one who can speak more and polish. I’m not underestimating, disrespecting or discouraging anyone, its the open fact anywhere. But every problem has its solutions and no one can bar the way in the process of development individually or socially. I would surely disclose my name if compelled but I like to input balanced suggestions and criticisms time and again as necessary thru this word CONCERN.
    Thanks.

  64. I agree with Puranaghare. We should first get organized at the local and State level first. We definitely need one national level organization but the time is not ripe yet. We have many intellectuals who have not been accomodated in both the organizations. We have many brains still in the camp. We should have waited for a couple of more years before forming a national organization. The intention of OBCA is not bad, it wants to address all the problems faced by the Bhutanese in America. But when you set too many goals, you end up achieving nothing. But if all the people support this organization, we may see the changes in the lives of the people.

  65. badai to all khiladis,

    you all got nothing to do but pass time in a more advanced way in america.Who gave you all the mandate to form national organzation on our (refugees) behalf?
    my sugessatio is ‘ concentrate NOW in your state, make one unified bhutanese community in your state, then representatives of all the states can come together, discuss and then form a national organizationwhich will take care of our culture and identity.certainly both ABA and OBCA donot deserve to be lebelled as national organizations.soory for giving my sincere suggesstions.

    thank

  66. Adhikari kanchho… who the heck are you to give mandate to anyone anyway? Don’t you need some kind of organizing even to ‘collect’ a mandate, to ‘galvanize’ a mandate? You concentarte in your state, if you have one. Those working in ABA and OBCA and myriad of other organizations have their own right to concentarte wherever they feel like. Did anyone come knocking at your door for your help? When and if they do, then speak up. Afu pani kehi gardaina, aru le gareko pani dekhi sahadaina! Typical kapti mentality.

  67. Dear all, (OBCA/ABA + Bhutanese Communities),

    We all know that there is inneed of talk between these two organizations with some conformizations. I konw there was little talk before between them on this unification matter but failled. I request Hari sir and OBCA leaders to come once more in table talk with common one idea for the best of Communities. And give complete solution to Bhuanese Communities of America. Conformization is most importaint here. Only making Orgs is nothing unless we work practically in our communities.
    There is inneed of only one organizaition for Bhutanese Communities of America.
    I request Hari sir and OBCA not to put Bhuatnese in great confussion. I hope this two org’s leaders are honest, responsible and trustful. United we stand and divided we fall.

    OBCA – I hope this convention will definately bring complete solution to Bhutanese Communities of America.
    ABA- Please go forward for Talk with OBCA with the vision of community.

    Thank YOu
    Karna Gurung
    Nebraska,USA
    BCN Press and Publicity Secretary.

  68. Dear friend,
    I am proud that we have national origination, But what we are doing for the family’s that they lose their sons in river. And also lots of Bhutanese have problems to find jobs and difficult to pay their bills. How we can help them.
    lets not discuses each other and don’t fight for chair and in my view it is good to have national organization,
    Tika

  69. What is the point here? Are you running campaign in favor of ABA? What we got to do with state department while we are talking about community activities and social work?? Please forget about that project in D.C and grant that dropped down with IRC assistance. What ABA did or have done when a young man passed away in Massachusetts???? Can you imagine what happend to those few Bhutanese who were living in that area? Here we really need to talk about services delivery and benefits for our folks in time of needs.I don’t think ABA’s board was dissolved at that time? It seems you understood the root, but you don’t want to agree. Why do you think ABA should have captainship over all the Bhutanese in America. Why ABA is against the local community organization?
    I am very prode of Bhim Points
    TikA Bista