Gazmere’s entry illegal, Rizal meeting Nepali Home Minister

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Kathmandu, August 2: The Director of Department of Immigration Nepal, Ram Saran Chimoriya, said the entry of Ratan Gazmere     and wife, Gauri Giri to Nepal was illegal.

No any nationals except Nepali citizens have legal entry to Nepal with Travel Document (TD), he said.
“Such nationals carrying TD instead of passport have to obtain entry visa to Nepal from respective embassy or consulate in their countries.”

They are denied on-arrival visa at the Tribhuwan International Airport according to Immigration Act 2065, provision 8.9, which prohibits issuance of entry visa to nationals or refugees with just TD.

Meanwhile, Tek Nath Rizal is scheduled to meet Bhim Rawal, Minister for Home Affairs tomorrow at 11:00 am to press the authorities for his entry to Nepal. 

“I will try to urge him to assist in issuing entry visa to Gazmere”, said Rizal.

As per the immigration officials, only cabinet decision can allow entry visa to them or the prime minister can solely decide on this.

Raju Thapa, chief of Human Rights Without Frontiers, commented that every national visiting Nepal must respect Nepali laws.

“If they come through legal process, we are ready to exert pressure on our authorities in case they are denied the visas”, said he adding, “If Nepal grants them special permit, there would be problems with other refugees later on.”

Another immigration official, who requested not to mention his name, told it was the negligence of the airlines to carry such persons. According to this official, the department will formally ask the airlines to return them to Australia.

If nothing happens, it is likely that Gazmere and Giri will fly back to Australia on Wednesday, he added.

26644 COMMENTS

  1. “… Entry Illegal..?” But he did not enter, did he? he is still outside Nepal legally and technically, as long as he has not (and is not allowed to) step out of the airport. So, no law broken there, and hence nothing illegal about it.

    He made a mistake, and he will just have to return to Australia. Mr. Gazmere should have checked with the Nepali embassy in Australia. Sometimes, we assume we know too much, or that our clout allows us free passage everywhere. Apparently, it doesn’t.

    It may be good for folks to know that Nepal has pretty stringent laws about Travel Documents. For instance, if you do not have the “Green Card,” your US TD is no good for entry into Nepal. Nepal does not issue visa on a TD if you do not have a green card (and hence a Re-entry permit in place of Refugee TD). Just so you know.

  2. Please note the quote below:
    No any nationals except Nepali citizens have legal entry to Nepal with Travel Document (TD), he said.
    “Such nationals carrying TD instead of passport have to obtain entry visa to Nepal from respective embassy or consulate in their countries.”

    This is not the valid comment. No Foreign embassy of Nepal abroad is allowed to issue visa. They have to first receive the approval of immigration offcial from Nepal.
    The point here is we have approach the GON to amend the policy on allowing the bhutanese refugees to enter Nepal.
    There is no other way and this applies to all the TD holders from any country.
    Parsu

  3. I think as long as one is inside the country even inside a plane or in the airport, that is considered illigal and Nepal has the right to check on their rules.

    But the haughty rule of the Nepalese Government sucks. Why would not Nepal issues visas on TDs issued by countries like the US, the UK or the European countries when the very same TDs are recognised by rest of the world. The irony is that the rest of the foreign Embassies respect the Nepalese TDs and issue visas enabling the Bhutanese to travel abroad. It makes me further sick to hear them say that the strictness is done for security’s reason! Why on earth are the Bhutanese a risk to Nepal?

    Had they been little wiser, they would realise that issuing visas to Bhutanese abroad could mint them a lot of money to run their embassies or even as National revenues.

    It is also worth noting that so many Nepalese embassies abroad are very corrupt. If some money is given under table any thing could be done from them right there. They demand bribes even to forward the papers to the home Ministry. Besides Bhutanese, they take thousands from Nepalese out side for from writing a small statement to issuing passports on fictitious names.

  4. Mr. Bhotangey,
    Yes, their “Entry” is “Illegal” to Nepal. That’s why they are caught in the soil of Nepal. How can you say he is outside Nepal? They came out of the Aircraft and set foot on Nepali Soil. So Nepali Law can be very well imposed to those illegal people entering to NEPAL. One should have legal travel document/Passport/Visa, which should comply to the Immigration law of the destination country.
    Mr. Bhotangey, you have no right to comment on the Immigration Law of Nepal. And don’t compare the In-Land Law of Nepal to any country. Nepal is a sovereign and independent country having its own Rule of Law. None of the outsider have right to point out to the National law of Nepal except Nepali Nationals.

  5. Parangjojo,
    I have a great respect for Nepal and its people. But it becomes very difficult for me to save the same respect for the so-called law keepers of Nepal. They have destroyed such a beautiful country to pieces and are still as hungry as ever to suck even from whatever residue is left.While I very much admire the immigration rules ( though sometimes too random and swayed by whims and fancies and ofcourse money) I think intelligent people like you should make a difference by actually pointing the weaknesses out if no outsiders have a right. ( Are you sure that an outsider does not have a right to point out?

  6. Mr. Parangjojo… have it your way! Your saying it (or my saying it) does not make it so, either way, and I am not going to give a thesis on what constitutes entry/exit etc when it comes to international airports or diplomatic missions etc.

    May be the fact that the Nepali govt did issue them a visa anyway means that rules are bendable in Nepal, and bendable rules aren’t worth the peper they are written on. All they mean is clout and money. I respect Nepal’s sovereignty, cincluding its right to provide selective treatment to whoever it chooses.

    I, and anyone else in the whole wide world, have absolute right to comment on Nepal’s laws, in-land or out-land or whatever laws they have. What we don’t have is the right to flaunt them or change them.

    Having said that, you might have not noticed is that not all Nepali nationals themselves seem to have the de facto right to comment on or change Nepali laws. But I digress.

  7. Mr Bhotangey,
    Your first comment on Ratan’s Visa case in TIA, Ktm. NEPAL reads “… Entry Illegal..?” But he did not enter, did he? he is still outside Nepal legally and technically, as long as he has not (and is not allowed to) step out of the airport. So, no law broken there, and hence nothing illegal about it”

    Wise man never thinks and talk like this. You have heard the word “Nepali Sky” (Nepali Aakash). There is law. And I m not asking you to give thesis on what constitutes entry/exit etc. or the national/international airport or diplomatic mission. Plz. note that there is Nepali Sky and Nepali Law. Every individual/nations have to respect the law.

    Mr. Bhotangey, Your next comment reads:
    “May be the fact that the Nepali govt did issue them a visa anyway means that rules are bendable in Nepal, and bendable rules aren’t worth the peper they are written on. All they mean is clout and money. I respect Nepal’s sovereignty, cincluding its right to provide selective treatment to whoever it chooses.”

    Yes, Nepal is going under transitional phase, Constitution drafting is under way. So at this juncture you said that “…. rules are bendable in Nepal, and bendable rules aren’t worth the peper they are written on bendable rules”.

    See Mr. Bhotangey, Person coming to Nepal legally or illegally, each one has its own interest. Nepal and Nepali(s) have very big heart. They understand, respect every individuals’ feelings. (Within the parameter of Natiional Law). That’s why they are permitted for 30 days to stay in Nepal. Since this is a small country comparing to yours, the time permitted to them is sufficient to visit each and every corner, even they can visit India because they belong to Nepali race. No thesis asked/needed on his movement, better give “BIG THANKS” to Nepal.

  8. Parangjojo,
    personally, I am socially and and culturally very attached to Nepal, even the smallest event occuring there effects my feelings. And i only wished Nepal had by now changed for better. Sadly, the same people, the same rules, the same curruptions and the same conscience. It is apparent that the transitional phase will never end!! I dont know if you fel good about it.
    It is not true that a bhutanes with a foreign TD, can visit india easily. One has to apply for a visa in the respective embassy before flying. Mind you, getting a visa in Kathmandu for India is not entertained.